It seems that when the engine heats up, the wiring harness below and behind the dashboard, (above the bonnet hinge around the offside headlight) expands and shorts out against the wiper motor arm. Find out more. I now have spotted over 12 motorhomes with the same problem and i have finally met a person that fulled me in. On board Fiat Ducato Camper, the Comfort-Matic gearbox, available with the Multijet2 130, 150 and 180 engines, not only reduces effort but also cuts fuel consumption, because it always engages the right gear in every situation. We have also swapped out the master cylkinder which is part of the comfortmatic unit with another vehicle which we know is good. Apologies for the many typos. Expert Opinion. Check also how many FIAT are Still on the road in UK.. Passenger side was fine, just the driver's side that wouldn't get warm. Brandybottle. Latest update is that northern commercials have ruled out wiring and sensors and now say that the controller that changes gears may be at fault. My vehicle is a 3ltr Comfortmatic, from 2000 26000miles on the clock., I would be interested to know what age and mileage the OP's 'van is. I did, as I was querulous to see where the air duct outlet was. reviewed by honkytonkpiano on 7 April 2016. The more i think and the more i google... i would really like to try and rule out the gearbox ECU with a test that would prove it for certain. We decided to check it out. I've just done mine, was a relatively easy job to do. Fiat Ducato Engine Problems Fiat Ducato Engine Problems Brandybottle replied on 30/08/2017 18:24. We must admit, the older we seem to get, the lazy bit crepes in. Fiat is aware of the major problem and will repair it if pushed as the fault is well known. As I said, the garage technician actually removed the footrest, but I think it is just a couple of bolts to undo, then unclip? Energy Tuning Ltd 334,860 views How you rate the manufacturer. They replaced that and it's been fine since (fingers crossed of course). 3. My first day on your forum and already you have solved my cold feet problem on my Comfortmatic fitted Mohawk. ... All used Fiat Ducato on the AA Cars website come with free 12 months breakdown cover. Hi Derry - looks like an impressive job you've done there! My problem started in January 2011 when taking the vehicle for its monthly off-season run. 5. If you are looking for a specific Fiat Ducato variant, it will help if you first select your preferred body style. They sound clueless......hope you get sorted. The Comfort-Matic robotised gearbox is also an option for the 130 and 150 versions of the 2.3litre Euro 5 MultiJet motor. I posted some time ago that I couldn't get my feet warm in winter when driving our 2016 Fiat Ducato X290, with comfortmatic gearbox. Fiat Ducato. In that case I recall the incorrect battery was fitted by Fiat during manufacture as apparently the Comfortmatic and non Comfortmatic batteries are different. I have been told that they will now discuss the situation with Northern commercials and keep me updated on progress. Automatic gearbox and Right-hand Drive with 9,989 miles. Thanks to MikeBeaches and Charlie Farley. It only takes a glance at the bumpers, the grille, the headlights to see that style is of the essence on the Ducato. The Ducato range is one of the longest-serving nameplates in the large van sector, with the first version arriving as far back as 1981. But will it be enough to chip away at the dominance of the Ford Transit and Mercedes-Benz Sprinter? Comfortmatic is a "robotic" gearbox - ie. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Great drive. it's essentially a manual gearbox using actuators to change gear. All of our packages have maintenance included for peace of mind, and we're confident the … Posted on 30/08/2017 18:24. The battery is a red herring. then the large panel simply unclips and you can remove right out of the way. It's just run out of its warranty, although the 3rd year I am told is insurance based anyway and may not/would not have covered the costs? I hope warm air (rather than cold air! ) Company Registered in England no. GB 638 3492 15. http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftoptitle-102455-intermittent-power-loss-3-ltr-fiat-comfortmatic-gearbox.html, http://www.unipartautomotive.co.uk/electrical/alternators-dynamos/Fiat/Ducato/all/3.0/2011/Parts.aspx, http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/X2-50-black-smoke-and-loss-of-torque-at-lower-revs/34292/31/#M414945, https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/That-X2-50-engine-gearbox-earth-strap-again-/33081/, http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/X-250-Vehicle-battery-Under-the-passengerrs-feet-/33651/, http://vanleasingmadesimple.com/van-leasing/fiat/ducato/battery-amps, http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopic-122006-days0-orderasc-0.html. I don't believe there is any problem with the standard manual gearbox model of the Ducato - certainly not on our previous one, in any case. Thanks for the pics I'll take a closer look later. Fiat Ducato Gearbox Problems – The Cause. When I started the engine I got a warning bleep, a message stating 'Check Transmission' and the gearbox warning light was illuminated. Improving safety was clearly high on the agenda for Fiat, and the Ducato comes with Roll-Over Mitigation and Load Adaptive Control to improve stability, as well as a driver's airbag. We have a number of Fiat Ducato lease deals listed on this page. On that one I normally had toasty warm feet when driving. There are 27 recall actions in UK related to FIAT DUCATO. Fiat Ducato 2016 Foot rest removal to install vents to improve warm air to drivers footwell. comes out of them! Passenger side was fine, just the driver's side that wouldn't get warm. The problem in this case was due to a wiring issue and reinforces the point made by Nick that wiring is the most likely cause when a fault occurs: For the earlier poster.. My van has done 10k miles approx.. Experience at the dealership. Form follows function. According to forums I have read the gearbox was originally a 4 speed design and the 5th gear was bolted on afterwards. Below is an extract from a thread on MHF concerning a mal functioning Comfortmatic gearbox. 2572212 | VAT Registration No. The Iveco-built 2.3litre 150bhp motor initially became available in Ducato “X250" vehicles in mid-2011 in Euro 5 form. Comfortmatic refers to the gearbox not the engine. Now corrected. We have gathered all of the most frequently asked questions and problems relating to the Fiat Ducato in one spot to help you decide if it's a smart buy. This is an original and brandnew spare part. Fiat recommends that the gearbox’s ‘manual mode’ should be selected. I have a Fiat Ducato based motorhome, bought new September 2009, with 3lt engine and Comfortmatic gearbox. Well, that all depends on your own personal circumstances and preferences. Or the the firm that wanted to rip box out. JavaScript is disabled. - Short Wheel Base - Low Roof - 8m3 storage - 1,605kg payload - 2,670mm load bay length With Fiat's Comfortmatic automatic transmission, this van is a delight to drive. FIAT DUCATO Recalls in UK. Member. Sounds fantastic, do you have any photos or a walk through on how to remove it? And the other pic is of the footwell in the cab after the plastic has been removed, which I think now looks very much like if you had a manual gearbox (but obviously the clutch pedal would be just there in the space). This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. It comes with timber lined walls, floor, boxed wheel arches and a rear crash bar for your protection. "The gearbox problem is solved and it was nothing to do with the Comfortmatic gearbox after all. This is my 3rd fiat ducato motorhome and i can't believe my paint work is falling off.. Subscribers  do not see these advertisements. Hi Nick, I am not mechanically minded so do struggle to ask the right questions. I have a fiat ducato 2011 with the comfortmatic gearbox. Wow, that looks innovative, and very professional. How practical it is. For the correct use of the gearbox, it is essential to read this Supplement in full to find out at the outset which operations are correct and permissible. Some say the quality of the metal parts is inferior. On refection, you don't need to remove this large panel. Fresh water piping. .pdf, v2Fiat Ducato 2016 Foot rest removal to install vents to improve warm air to drivers footwell. Problems can be expensive if major components need replacing. No problems to date. use the search function puuting in "earth strap" and "euroserv" as author and you will get this. Page 2 This Supplement describes the procedure for using the COMFORT-MATIC electronically controlled manual gearbox on the Fiat Ducato. Fiat boasts the squarest, boxiest cargo area on the market, not a claim you would hear at a “normal” press conference. We have the 3ltr Ducato with Comfortmatic and love it, it's a great combination. Apparently the vehicle goes into 'limp mode' when it happens. The Fiat Ducato (also known as the X244) produced between 2003 and 2008 has formed the basis of a wide assortment of motorhomes, ranging from panel van conversions, through traditional coachbuilt vehicles to A-class motorhomes with an integrated cab. This 2020 complied Fiat Ducato Series 6 short wheelbase van has been used by us for demonstrations and some parts deliveries so it hasn't worked hard at all. For additional information, consult the User Handbook to which this Supplement is attached. Because the Ducato is front-wheel-drive, Fiat located the transverse engines under the hood, not between the seats like you see in GM and Ford vans. Let our team of motoring experts keep you up to date with all of the latest Fiat Ducato issues & faults. Frankly I don't feel like having an argument with the dealer either but I have looked at my van and the drawings on the parts disc and find that the controller and hydraulic equipment has to be removed before the gearbox can come off. For the correct use of the gearbox, it is essential to read this Supplement in full to find out at the outset which operations are correct and permissible. I'm pretty sure that the only forum-member able to give you informed advice about this would be Nick Fisher (euroserv). 5. see attached pdf. I posted some time ago that I couldn't get my feet warm in winter when driving our 2016 Fiat Ducato X290, with comfortmatic gearbox. However, I should make it clear it was only an issue for me because we have the comfortmatic semi-automatic gearbox. it can take up three stable positions and three unstable positions.’ This largely means that for the first few hours of driving you have absolutely no idea either of the position you are in nor of the position you ought to be in. I can't specifically help with your question. Fiat is one manufacturer that’s persevering with semi-automatics and is offering one on the front-wheel drive Ducato under the Comfort-Matic banner. It came to us with the issue that it wouldnt go into gear, we have put a clutch in it along with a slave cylinder. 2. Vehicle is from 2008, not 2000. I have to turn the heat up to 30 deg to get my feet warm then after 10min turn it down before we roast, so much for auto systems. 603.95.838 Ducato MTA Confort GB:603_83_787 Ducato Dual ITA 2-11-2011 9:50 Pagina 1 I did have a brief look sometime ago when my fiat dealer explained why my feet never got warm. Fiat Ducato 2.3 Multijet H/Rf Van 180 Power Comfortmatic. Then remove 2 short self tapping torque screws just inside the small storage pocket (Mine has the gauges for the Air Assist suspension). I have just done this modification and going away Tuesday for 3 weeks so will see if there is any difference. By July 2012 it got worse, and they were able to find a fault in a sensor. Fiat Ducato Comfortmatic Gearboxes McLouis Fusion Options Motorhomes are driven in many different places, the question is the Fiat Ducato comfortmatic gearboxes worth that extra cost? Fiat Ducato (2006 on) 4. Today’s Ducato range is powered by a line-up of Fiat’s Euro 6 Multijet II common-rail diesel engines. Overall reliability. The hardest bit was pulling out the plastic pin on the floor and undoing the 1 x 6mm nut which, together with 2 self tapping torque screws at the top hold the footrest in place. [tabs] [tab title="The problem" start=open] The pump supplies the hydraulic pressure for the different consumers (actuators) of the Comfort-Matic and stores it in the pressure accumulator. Battery issues are mentioned above. You are using an out of date browser. Copyright © Warners Group Publications Plc. Where do they all go. 4. .pdf, New member with some news about Comfortmatic gearbox. It features an innovative look with a sleek line and dynamic, robust character, where style meets functionality in a striking design. The Fiat Ducato is a light commercial vehicle developed by the Sevel joint venture between Fiat and PSA Peugeot Citroën, produced since 1981.It was also sold as the Citroën C25, Peugeot J5, Alfa Romeo AR6 and Talbot Express for the first generation, while the second and third generations are marketed as the Fiat Ducato, Citroën Jumper, and Peugeot Boxer. Fiat have complicated it by introducing a gear selector which they describe as ‘a floating multistable lever, i.e. I find when it's cold outside and the sun streaming in the temperature sensors above the heater controls think it's hot so it turns the heat down. I have raised this on a previous thread but euroserve had not heard of this being an issue. Fiat Ducato 2015, 3 berth motorhome for sale in Pembrokeshire. At first Northern Commercials couldn't find a fault, either by driving or diagnostics, as it was intermittent. I get cold feet for a different (footrest not in the way on LHD). ... Make sure it works. The latest recall action was on January 24th, 2020. This guy received a full paint job after going to fiat. Quote; Report; Like; We have a 2014 Hymer on a Fiat Ducato base vehicle, the engine will not respond to accelerator when pulling away from low speed ie. Fiat is renewing its efforts in the large van market, with a refreshed line-up spearheaded by the 2020 Ducato. OK, here are some pics - a couple of the large plastic footrest that has the effect of deflecting the warm air up under the dash and away from the driver's feet. I have read somewhere that when a battery loses voltage as it gets older or for some other reason then problems with the Comfortmatic electrics have occurred. Here's hoping it's the same in an A class cab. Very easy to drive, a plenty of torque for steep hills etc. 2.3 litre 150bhp MWB. Previous 2010 Ducato X250, with manual gearbox, lovely toasty warm feet, therefore assumed there was a problem with the new van. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In mid-2014 the Ducato X250 design was facelifted, The revised range was now generally referred to as “X290” and the Euro 5 150bhp motor was tweaked, with Fiat calling its emissions standard “Euro 5+”. The pressure sensor is responsible to detect the hydraulic pressure in the accumulator of the Fiat Ducato Comfort-Matic system. The pump consists of a small gear pump and the powering electric motor. OOPS, typo error. Up front the awkward nose is a nod to practicality. The Fiat Professional Ducato is "city-proof". From what other more informed contributors have said,first earth strap, then wiring loom behind dash, Would not trust fiat I'm afraid, they are masters of denial! Overall rating. They say it's a gearbox out job (which they quote 9hrs labour) then the new part to try is £1800, plus the labour to fit.. Then gearbox back in and see what happens! Yes I had the same problem with the 2019 Fiat Ducato that we hired. Arjx you have my every sympathy our autotrail cheyanne's comfortmatic konked out when van was three years old ,weeks and weeks we were waiting for dealers to try and discover what was wrong in the end I part exed it for a new van : but I did end up getting in touch with fiat who I might add were very helpfull ,I'm not mechanically minded but it turned out to be the clutch wouldn't engage or something (I didn't think they had a clutch when automatic but apparently they do) my friend also discovered on the Internet that if you don't have a strong enough vehicle battery it affects the performance of the comfortmatic(it's a couple of years ago now so I can't remember all details but I do remember that I wished I'd got in touch with fiat earlier than I did the dealers didnt have a clue if I'd had my time again I'd have taken it to stoneacre our local fiat commercial dealers anyhow good luck I thought it was heart attack time when it happened to us it was so stressfull: pp :)). 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